How to deal with your car broken into.
Today my car was broken into when hiking Ka’Iwi Park. After coming back around 3 hrs later I went to open my door and looked across and there lay my passenger door window shattered all over my seats and floor. My glove department was open and my black backpack was taken. Luckily the thief did not take my phone or wallent somewhat hidden in between my soda holders. The thief did get away with an awesome Canon Powershot with full professional waterproof camera case valued over $600 dollars. I didn’t really get upset about it at the scene how most people would react flipping out. To me it’s just another materialistic thing. I can replace it. I earn plenty enough through my home-based business that even if my car was stolen I’d say fuck the bastards.
At this very moment my roommates have come home eruptly drunk again. Noisy and undelightful to be around.
One thing I’m good at is moving forward. If I let myself become miserable over something I can not change and get back then I can not move forward. Yes, my full coverage insurance isn’t going to pay for my smashed window which will be another $250 bucks out of my pocket and yes I have no digital camera anymore I received for graduating boot camp, but it can be replaced.
So I forgive the thief and drive home with this smashed passenger door window with confidence that I can buy another window and get through it. Although I know its going to set me back some money I work really hard to get I also know that hey maybe that thief needed the money from that camera more then I do.
I think it was more stressful waiting for the police to fill out a police report, calling my insurance company finding out they don’t pay for it, and lastly that the window for my car model is out of stock and will have to be back ordered from the “main land”.
I feel I’ve coped with my small loss today pretty well. I haven’t even told anyone. I really don’t find it all that fascinating. Well, now the music is on and the drinking continues with the roommates who joked me for doing home-based business stuff. I guess the jokes on them now since I’ve been able over the past few months been able to save up quite a sum from doing One24 Online. I suppose instead of falling asleep her I will just go back to boat and sleep in my chill rack. I have softball games tomorrow (what fun!) and probably will play tennis inbetween. I got a really red sunburn today so I will be putting on lots of lotion.
If your car has been broken into please express your thoughts postive or negative. -P I have to admit when my sweet Nikon D40 SLR was stolen off a Philly AMTRACK train it was much worse due to the pictures on it were of my baby niece I took earlier that week. So remember if digital BACKUP BACKUP like on Flickr before it’s too late!
I found your post after I googled, “How to handle your car being broken into”. As you probably know, today is the day after Christmas, meaning the thief decided to surprise me with a wonderful holiday gift.
Apparently he decided not to take anything. I have (actually… had) a very nice deck, which was totally destroyed by whatever crowbar he used to try to yank it out with. He left the broken, destroyed deck on the seat cushion, beautifully on top of the sheets and sheets of broken glass.
I think you’re totally right about this – it is beyond your control, so you can’t think too much about it. This holiday season, I was thinking a lot about how fortunate I am to have what I have. What worth is it crying over a $500 deck and $200 car window? Maybe the thief needed the money more than I did. I’m sure he’s in a worse place than I am… so what he needs most is sorrow.
I’m taking this quite well. Dealing with the insurance will be a hassle, though.
Thanks for your post, it helped me out during this vulnerable time.
December 26, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Hey Joseph. Sorry to hear about your windows. The worst is when your insurance policy does not cover them fully. Usually if you only have a small liability you are paying for the whole entire thiefs wreck. Bastards! Well hope you can forgive and forget about it even though you’ll be dishing out $200-400 to fix your window and anything taken.
December 27, 2007 at 6:51 pm
It is a bit later than most of the other posts, but I googled, “how to deal with your car getting broken into”.
I was at work for an hour and a half before I found out my car had been vandalized. They took my stereo, a cell, and I too lost a camera from them, and all the fixins for it. They took another employees stereo as well…I find myself not as upset as I should be….my prized possesions were so quickly taken from me….but….after reading your post I think maybe they did need it….although living in the suburbs of Chicago, in a not so nice area…it could just be hoodlums…
Thank you for your post, it lets me know others feel the same way.
September 28, 2008 at 4:53 am
They are common criminals and deserve no respect or reasoning. A jury needs to send who ever did this to jail for there crime. lock em up
August 4, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Thanks for your comment. I’m sure you’ll be able to recoup your losses in some other way at some other time…hoodlum or not items can be replaced.
September 28, 2008 at 7:04 pm
I just had my car broken into…my other car has been broken into twice before, this is the first time for this car. The most upsetting thing to me is that it is IN MY DRIVEWAY, right by where I’m sitting now…that freaks me out!
October 4, 2008 at 12:05 pm
my car was just broken into last night, and after putting extensive hours of my own labor, countless hard earned dollars, i couldnt feel much worse, when i saw my work shattered into pieces and cut wires laying on the ground i felt an undescribable amount of pain and anger, your post help me in the sense that it is just material things that can be replaced, but work and labor cannot be replaced (unless you get an awesum insurance company) so i do agree with most of what you say, except that thieves may need money more then i do, and that i should fell sorry for them?…i hope your kidding, because coming from a hard working middle class family i believe everyone should work hard from their money no matter where they start, end of story no exceptions
October 17, 2008 at 1:26 am
Hey Andrew. Thanks for the comment on my blog. I don’t think you should very sorry for the thief, but I think everyone has been a thief sometime in their life. My $1000 gone sucked. That is like an entire paycheck, but I can replace it. I’ve never heard of any awesome insurance company either.
Good luck with your next system.
October 17, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Probably like everyone else who’s posted here, your blog is one of the first things that popped up when I searched “what to do if your car gets broken into”. This is the first time I’ve had my car broken into, they went through everything and got my cell and some audio components. It’s comforting to read what you’ve written. I agree, I thinks it’s best to move on as soon as you can, they’re just material possessions. Anyway, thanks Paul
May 25, 2009 at 1:19 am
thanks for your comment. getting your car broken into and having very expensive possessions stolen is a bummer, but you can always buy them again.
like in the movie Into The Wild as the old man says, “to love you need to forgive, and to forgive is love”. its true. and you’ll feel better after you just get over it and move on with your life.
May 28, 2009 at 11:06 pm
im – f-ing pissed, lastnight someone broke into my car, and stole my ping -eye golf clubs (1000$) .. i want to just jack someone up and beat the everliving crap out of the thief…..
be calm, f-that, i feel violated….
June 4, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Def on the level of kung fu status! 5th time in less than a year. And i live in a descent neighborhood. 3 of my cars were broke into last night and one was almost stolen. I can’t stand a thief and just because someone needs money doesn’t mean they have to steal. I have been laid off from work since Feb. 27 and i’m not stealing, so i agree that these people need the shit beat out of them.
August 19, 2009 at 6:46 pm
I was broken into last night. It sucks. iPod Touch is gone. I’m pretty angry and I’m hoping to calm down. I mean I know it happens… but reading this assures me I’m not alone.
July 7, 2009 at 1:09 pm
matt. just get over it. it’s done. move on with your life with one big breath and you’ll be fine.
July 14, 2009 at 3:42 am
My car was broken into early this morning, and I feel really violated. Tell you the truth, I don’t really know how I feel. I’m a bit upset, as they stole my beautiful new digital camera with all my precious photos from a recent family reunion and wedding…..I don’t care about the camera, as many of you have said it is a replaceable THING. Its the pictures I’m having a hard time letting go of. I can’t replace those….
It is really disapointing, but I’m grateful they didn’t check the glove box….I had my checkbook and an ipod in there! Lesson learned: I will NEVER leave anything valuable in my car.
Thanks for listning, I feel better now. 🙂
August 16, 2009 at 6:55 am
Note to self make sure you keep your valuables close to you on amtrack too! I had my second camera stolen from behind my seat. Maybe I am just prone to easy theft. Sorry to hear about your pictures. The second time had all my niece baby pictures I took. Just shout really loud it might make you feel better then count slowly to 10. =)
-Paul aka financeninja
August 17, 2009 at 4:12 am
some kid at my school broke into my truck,no one seems to care,they stole the faceplate to my radio,costas,paychecks,pictures,an ipod,ash tray and matches??and to top it all of they poured a gallon of black paint on my blue truck..i dont know what to do,i mean im over it now but i also dont have 1800 dollars for damages seeing as i work for family making 90 bucks a week..360 a month plus a 200 dollar truck note dosent leave much to pay the dues…someone please tell me what i should do.
September 1, 2009 at 5:37 am
It sounds like you have bigger issues then stolen goods. Is there any particular reason why someone would dump black paint into your truck? Where do you live where you only earn $90/week?
September 1, 2009 at 5:47 am
my son and a friend came back from a beautiful 8 day cruise and his friend was in from Kansas, so they stayed a night in a local hotel to leave the next day for the airport for her flight home. they came to find his car broken into and both their luggages gone, all clothes they had, jewelry, camara, souveniers they had bought on the cruise, all of their pictures they took from vacation, school books, passports. etc. It was so upsetting to both of them. but i was trying to tell them the same thing, after the initial shock and the feeling of being so violated, that they have to realize that they’re ok and these things are replaceable. yes, it’s costly, but could have been worse, they could have been car-jacked and hurt. but its still so sad that people could be so cruel and do things like this.
September 7, 2009 at 1:18 pm
my car got broken into last night, i have only bought about two months ago and after much thought as i was told to not buy the particular car i have. They only took my uni bag which had nothing in them except notes, but what amazed me is that they just broke the lock and took my bag which was not visible as under the seat, so how did they know i would have something in my car or did they have other intentions. But the thing is i dont feel so bad, just that it was near my house so they could come back, just a bit of fear. but reading your article was good…thankyou
October 15, 2009 at 8:15 pm
My bag was also semi hidden. I’m the robber just wants to be in-out semi-professional looking for the biggest thing they can grab and run. I also advise keep your stuff close on Amtrack!!! I had my second $1200 camera stole from me there too. Maybe I am just prone to being robbed. Yesterday I thought the Bank teller gave me $200 too much in an envelope and I went back to return the money later finding out she just gave me a check I deposited too that I thought was staying at the bank. Maybe I just have high moral/ethical standards. I suppose if you need money bad enough you steal to survive so just forgive them, count to 10, and move on with your life is what I got to say even though you want to scream real loud. Well, you can do that too.
October 16, 2009 at 3:21 am
I just had my car broken into yesterday. I know it was somone pro, they knew when i would be at work, and they knew that i don’t return to my truck until around lunch time.
The most terrible part was walking back to my car and seeing everything of mine flung all over the place. The thieves had slim-jimmed my window, so i did not have the broken glass to deal with, but the initial shock… just seeing your things gone… then that moment when you just have no idea what to do…
Who do I call?
Who can help me?
They had stolen my car stero, the amp and my GPS. After reading your posts, i do feel a lot better about this.. they are all replaceable items, but the violation, thats what gets to me. Some one was in MY car, sitting in MY seat, destroying and thieving MY things… it is so terrible…
I was very lucky, i had family and co-workers there almost at an instant. It happens to everyone… Thats what really helped me too, knowing that people go through this everyday.
I called 911 right away and was promptly put on hold for 30min. Finally they transferred me to the ‘right’ division, then i was put on hold AGAIN…
Thank goodness this all happened near a busy street, because a pair of cops had stopped a speeder right in front of my truck. I flagged them down and they wrote up a PR, which is very handy.
The second I was at home I called my insurance and started a claim. Now i WORK in a claims department, so i am pretty familiar with the process. Boy it was strange being on the other end. I have a wonderful adjuster who was happy i was all right and that they did not make off with my entire CAR.
Again thongs could always be worse.
One thing i messed up on though, the officers said that they could have taken fingerprints at the station later, but it’s only a 1/10000 chance they would be usable. So after filing the claim and getting home, i washed my car.
And i mean WASHED. It felt good scrubbing all the thief stank out, kind of made it my own car again.
I believe this was when i finally calmed down, while scrubbing at a particulary dirty spot on my dash.
Then i thought, ‘Oh great, i just washed all the fingerprints off’.
I feel like a dumb arse now, but even the cops were saying they usually don’t even catch these guys.
The other extrodinaly scary thing is that they stole my registration for my truck. So now they have my address too.
Why else steal the reg? I am deathly afraid of a home invasion now, and i have a little brother who is off school and at home all the time.
Or maybe they wanted to steal the car later, which does not make sense since they could have stolen it yesterday easily.
I am still amazingly freaked out, i unplugged a few plug wires from the engine, so if they DO come back for the car, they will need to open the hood… hopefully someone will hear that…
I have been parking a block away form my work for almost 4 years now, and my mom for longer. It’s just so hard to believe that you park your car, lock it, its on a busy well lit street, and its still not safe.
October 30, 2009 at 6:49 pm
calling the cops would be a start although they can’t do much without evidence or proof of the thief.
November 5, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Man this will be the third time my car has been broken into this time they took my cd player it is very very upsetting cause I barely can afford the stuff I have I dont have a good job but I work for everything I own they say you can replace items but man what it takes just to get them and someone just takes it and there is absolutly nothing you can do to get them back I know not everyone can just go buy new stuff like me and these PIECE OF SHITS just do it over again I guess i will let it go cause there is no use of dwelling on something you cant change but it still hurts But what goes around comes around so i know who ever takes from you they will have to pay in the long run
October 31, 2009 at 8:39 pm
hahaha. sorry to hear Bigg.
November 5, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Time to move away from that crime ridden area or get a concealed pistol permit and make the dirtbags go away.
August 4, 2012 at 3:02 pm
I had my truck broken into 2 weeks ago, I found all of my tools gone as I am getting into my truck to go to work. Wires under the dash pulled, cut and stripped, don’t know why they would pull out the power wires to my air pump (fir dirk dirka) well any way I went to work and borrowed my bosses tools and continued with my day think that the perp must of needed it more than I did. I lerft it at that and tried to forget about it. 2 weeks go by and I am taking my roomate home from a party we were at and I am waiting to get in the gate when a guy I have recently noticed in the complex where we live is walking around my truck so i decide to be an open human and say hello and ask how his night had been. he comes up to my truck and I now have rolled the window down all the way and he sets a pair of dikes and a screwdriver on the door frame of my truck and tells me he was just dropped off by the police after they had accused him of breaking into to cars. well lone behold they were my tools. so I asked him where he had got them and that they were mine he sttttt tttt uutt erd so I took them and opened the door to see if he would square up with me hoping for the reaction from him that he was ready to fight but that was not the case he seemed more scared to deal with confrontation mean while unknown to me my roomate had gotten out of his side and came up behind me and layed the guy out. I felt really bad at the time but now I know it was him and his friends. I don’t want the police involved not that kinda of thing I would wish to happen but I would like to give the guy the chance to return what was taken..
any thoughts on how I should handle the situation?
November 4, 2009 at 9:21 am
Hey thanks for your comment and email.
So you did get back your tools? And the theft did get knocked out by
your roommate? Seems like you got justice then. If he still has more
of your stuff and you know this for a fact or evidence leaves to it
maybe you should at least do a police report so if stuff turns up at
pawn shops you might be able to get it back.
– I think any time you steal and then you are confronted with your
victim especially if you didn’t mean to hurt the person its quite
uncomfortable. I think its your best bet to call the police NOW when
its fresh and do a police report honestly. Your friend isn’t going to
get into trouble or too much trouble because it happened in the past.
If anything the theft could charge battery/domestic violence but the
police are going to favor you as the victim and likely go into his
home and find the rest of your crap. The longer you wait he’ll have
time to sell it/dispurse it within his ring. Remember you don’t have
to press charges once you get your stuff back(if you get your stuff
back) unless you want to. So see if you can get your stuff first, if
you can’t and its gone and you witness who clobbered him can back you
up then you press charges until he tells you where the stuff is.
November 5, 2009 at 10:50 pm
How can you feel sorry for a jerk that took from you. If he needed to borrow the tools that would be one thing but he just took em. He deserves an ass kicking, you deserve the tools back and your vehicle repaired at his cost. I wouldn’t feel a bit sorry for that guy, in fact I would have forced him to go to his house and return your stuff then I would have really kicked his ass. Way past time to change status from victim to victor. Give em what he richly and justly deserves.
August 4, 2012 at 3:00 pm
I was so angry when my car got broken into the day after Christmas, called 911 so many times and nobody came, they said they not forgetting me but nobody came….waited for 30mins i got so mad felt like nobody cares so i cleaned up and went home, they stole my gps and almost got my dvd player that i customized into my car but couldn’t i guess because it was a busy parking lot behind a restaurant, I was there for only 30 mins ….couln’t get over it that nite…i couln’t sleep…now i’m feeling better, especially reporting to the police and gave them my gps serial # so they can track it down from database that they have with the pawn shop, but if they sell it on craig list or somewhere online then it would be impossible to get it back.
December 31, 2009 at 7:56 pm
well guys these stories are all a bummer….New years was yesrterday and after leaving the club on the way to the store to get gas i realized that everything in mypocketbook from my credit cards to me chap stick was gone. and to make matters worse besides not having any more cash on me but the 24 hour store was closed due to a computer crash…bummer…after filing a police report i asked the officer to use his credit card in order to get gas lol….i was so pissed. This Sh** makes no sense all the time you put into owning something in its gone within 60 seconds…not to mention the police officers claimed there was nothing they could do….how about fingerprints…i watch CSI.–LOL
January 2, 2010 at 3:48 am
my car got broken into today, i just bought it last week with my own money and i was in school and i went out to go to my car and the passanger side window was smashed. They took my $90.00 purse and my I.D. My phone was in the cup holder but it was still there and i had a sterio in the back seat but it was still there. I dont know if it’s just a break in or it’s somebody that knows my car. Any comments???!!!
April 23, 2010 at 10:21 pm
my friend told me a story where he had all his shoes stolen ( i guess he had really nice sneakers and many of them) when he was gone for work. he says on that very day his apartment neighbors were leaving and knew about all his expensive shoes. so who knows it could of easily been someone you know. are you into drugs? that’s always a warning sign if your friends do drugs or need money for something. lifes a bitch sometimes more of a bitch when you have to pay for that smashed window because your insurance company won’t cover it do to your cheap deductable plan. next time put your purse hidden under your seat or locked in your glove department.
April 26, 2010 at 1:59 am
My car was broken into today. Back rear window completely shattered and my school bag and purse were gone. They didn’t take my gps or my radar detector off my dash though. Very strange. The only thing they got of value was my college English hw lol and a key to my car not good. Such a bad day. 250$ for a new window tomorrow and probably no sleep for a week.
November 15, 2010 at 5:52 am
Strange theft, hoping your life is more settled now.
August 4, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Life still is not settled, but not from theft more like financial obligations.
August 4, 2012 at 3:29 pm
who leaves there car keys in the car! very silly
August 17, 2013 at 3:48 am
my car was broken into last night. they took my ipod, cds, sunglasses, and backpack. i dont even care about the ipod and stuff all i want back is my backpack. all the work ive put into school is gone. and it KILLS me to know its all probably sitting in a dumpster somewhere in dallas. like everyone said, i also feel very violated. i dont even want to take my car anywhere knowing someone else was in it earlier taking all of my own personal things. all ive done today was cry and pray for someone to try and sell my ipod. i hope someone does soon so i can at least get a name. getting my things back would be nice but i would do absolutely ANYTHING to have my backpack back. i filed a police report earlier today and im hoping for a call sometime this week, i know its unlikely but im trying to keep my head up.
reading this has made me feel a little better about my situation, im glad it was a minor one and its also nice to hear everyone else kind of on your level.
November 25, 2010 at 9:17 am
sorry to hear. hope things are better now.
January 3, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Hope your things were recovered but more importantly you have recovered.
August 4, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Last night our two cars were broken into in our driveway. They went through everything. Luckily there was not much in the one so they only stole the knob off the stereo (yeah the knob) I guess because they couldn’t get the whole thing out, and all of the cds. However from the other car they got about $2000 worth of tools that my husband has to have for work. Needless to say I’m pissed they basically stole the way my husband earns a living, and really the knob. WTF.
August 24, 2011 at 4:20 pm
yea i would of MUCH rather had my bran new car stolen then my camera. lol at least the car would be covered and replaced. so make sure your husband gets valuables insurance next time!
August 24, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Hope the bastard cuts his hands off with the tools.
August 4, 2012 at 2:50 pm
My car was broken into last night while I was on an evening diner cruise. The thief(s) took my Valentine 1 radar detector and smashed the other things in my car as well as taking my wallet from the glove box. I called the police and they would not even fill out a police report. They said see us in the morning. What lazy bullshit is this. They are not interested in catching criminals, and we pay their salaries. I am going back tonight and watching that parking garage, if Mr or Miss thief shows up tonight (and I’m thinking they might, popular place on Fri and Sat nights), if they do they will encounter and angry customer of theirs that won’t tolerate any bullshit. They better not resist or I will use the all the force necessary to control and dominate the situation until Police arrive and I do mean all. If I never find them I hope the world treats these criminals with the respect they deserve and wipes it’s feet all over their face.
August 4, 2012 at 1:46 pm
I googled this site and it is helping me cope with the fact that someone actually sat in my and went through my glove box and took my ipod. I bought the ipod 2nd hand and don’t have the serial number. Haven’t call apple yet, but I hope they can shut down the device. I feel violated. I can’t imagine what I would feel like if they had taken my car. My BMW, my baby was violated. The police are no help. they only file reports for items over 500. WTF. I want fingerprints taken from my car and this criminal layed to rest. WHY! Why do people steal. I feel dumb for falling prey to this criminal act. it happened right in front of my home. it really sucks. I’m getting cameras.
August 20, 2012 at 11:33 am
They steal because it’s a rush and or they really need the money for whatever they need the money for. You are telling me you have never ever stolen something in anyway? I can’t say I’m perfectly innocent. Breaking into a car is just much more physical and saddening especially when they smash a window and steal something very valuable. After this happened I actually had my Nikon D90 professional camera stolen RIGHT BENEATH ME! On an Amtrak train. My sisters warned me. I put my camera bag under my train seat, but I didn’t realize I was sitting in the end row right near the door AND the back of my seat was open to the door. Well, I got up thinking my camera was between my feet and it was gone. I was dumbfounded. This thief was quiet. It could have been any of the people that walked past me. I can tell you one thing – if you are ever on an Amtrak train KEEP EVERYTHING IN YOUR LAP HANDCUFFED TO YOUR WRIST! LOL. =). Ridiculousness! Sad sad sad. That case and camera cost me around $1100! I must be a sucker to smart smooth criminals. I now keep everything right on me and they will be forced to take it at gun/knife point before I let them take it.
September 17, 2012 at 12:26 am
My car was broken into on my college campus the other night. I go to a small, safe school so I felt comfortable leaving a bag in my car. I feel violated, especially since it happened right across the campus police office. Luckily, nothing of value was in the bag that they stole from what I can remember. I am trying to remind myself that valubles could have been in there (like credit cards and irreplaceable jewelry) but it is still a strange feeling. I know that the bag can be replaced, but I still wish I had taken it out. I learned my lesson the hard way, unfortunately. But, like I said, it could have been much worse and they could have taken more.
November 13, 2012 at 1:00 am
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June 20, 2013 at 11:32 pm
I don’t agree with you at all. my family have worked their arses off to buy various items. this morning our car was broken into. the passenger seat’s window behind the driver was smashed as the criminal/criminals scammed the car. an mp3 player was stolen and god knows what else. we shouldn’t forgive any criminal until he is had what he deserves-prison. thankfully they didn’t take the large envelope of 300-400 euros that was sitting right in front of anyone that could see inside the car. after recently losing a lot of money over house properties and spending a fortune on our first holiday in years. we came to Italy where this even took place. criminals should be imprisoned for what they have done. by pitying and forgiving them you are encouraging them to carry on making holes in people’s wallets. but if they are delt with they are warned never to do so again. as I mentioned earlier… we have worked incredibly hard to earn money and live a healthy life, it is not our responsibility to pay for others. they have their own responsibility to stay in school and work hard. my faith in humanity is lost. a sickly feeling inside me prevents any signs of forgiveness, if I found out who it was I would teach them a long lesson not to steal from me or anyone else again! we are calling the police once everyone has had a rest. kindly an Italian couple helped us by temporarily reparing the window with duct tape and plastic and escorted us into the garage. luckily due to my height and size I stood silently waiting at the gate. waiting for the return of the criminals. (im 6ft 2″ slightly broad) the car was left oblivious and vaunreble to any greedy disgusting scum of a human. to sum it up. never feel sorry for a criminal they should be the ones feeling guilty as they carry on pleading for money looking back on what they did.
August 17, 2013 at 3:31 am